Hearing Transcripts from United States v. SFWMD, et al.,

Case No. 88-1886-CIV-HOEVELER

 

 

     STYLE:      US vs. SFWMD
     CASE:        88-1886-CIV-WMH
     JUDGE:     WILLIAM M. HOEVELER
     DATE:        November 9, 1995

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
MIAMI DIVISION

 

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, et al.,

Plaintiff,

vs.

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, et al.,

Defendants.

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Case No
88-1886-CIV-WMH 

          Miami, Florida
          November 9, 1995                  

Volume 4

 

TRANSCRIPT OF HEARING PROCEEDINGS IN THE
ABOVE-ENTITLED MATTER BEFORE THE HONORABLE
WILLIAM M. HOEVELER, U.S. DISTRICT JUDGE

 

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APPEARANCES:

MICHAEL W. REED, ESQ.
KEITH SAXE, ESQ.
United States Department of Justice
General Litigation Section
Environment & Natural Resources Division
P.O. Box 663
Washington, D.C. 20044-0663
For the United States of America

ROBIN HERMAN, ESQ.
Assistant U.S. Attorney
Federal Justice Bldg.
Miami, Florida
For the United States of America

 


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LEHTINEN, O'DONNELL, VARGAS & REINER
7700 Kendall Drive
Suite 303
Miami, Florida
BY: DEXTER LEHTINEN, ESQ
MARIA SANTOVENIA, ESQ.
For the Miccosukee Tribe of Indians.
of Florida

HOPPING GREEN & SAMS & SMITH
123 South Calhoun Street Post Office Box 6526
Talahassee, Florida
BY: WILLIAM GREEN, ESQ.
GARY P. SAMS, ESQ.
For Western Palm Beach County
Farm Bureau, Roth Farms, Inc.
and K.W.B Farms, Inc.

GUNSTER, YOAKLEY, VALDES-FAULI
& STEWART, P.A.
The Broward Financial Center
Suite 1600
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
BY: RICK J. BURGESS, ESQ.
WILLIAM HYDE, ESQ.
For U.S. Sugar Corp.


POPHAM, HAIK, SCHNOBRICH & KAUFMAN
4000 International Place
100 S. E. Second Street
Miami, Florida
BY: PAUL NETTLETON, ESQ.
BENJAMINE REID, ESQ.
For The South Florida Water
Management District

 


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DAVID A. CROWLEY, ESQ.
Deputy General Counsel
Department of Environmental Protection
2600 Blair Stone Road
Twin Towers Bldg.
Tallahassee, Florida
For Florida Department of
Enviornmental Protection

EARL, BLANK, KAVANAUGH & STOTTS
Two South Biscayne Blvd,
Suite 3636
Miami, Florida
BY: ROBERT BLANK, ESQ.
WILLIAM EARL, ESQ.
For Florida Sugar Cane League, Inc.
and Cities

TIMOTHY D. SEARCHINGER, ESQ.
1875 Connecticut Avenue
Washington D.C. 20009
For the Environmental Defense Fund

DAVID G. GUEST, ESQ.
Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund
P.O. Box 1329
Tallahassee, Florida

 

 

Reported By:
Jerald M. Meyers
Official Court Reporter

 


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MORNING SESSION

THE COURT: All right, folks. Let's see, we will

not have Dr. Jones this morning, and so we will again I

think we agreed with one of our your witnesses?

MR. GREEN: Yes, Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right.

MR. LEHTENIN: Your Honor, if I might add, and

before I had left for Judge Highsmith's hearing, we had had

this conversation with counsel, and it does make sense to

the Miccosukee Tribe, they have out of town witnesses, and

so forth.

I will just point out again, and I believe everyone

those that Hour next witness was Mr. Duncan, and it makes

some sense to take these witnesses. Mr. Duncan lives here,

but we just again are somewhat concerned that it be

understood that Mr. Duncan is still there.

THE COURT: Yes.

MR. LEHTENIN: I am not programming him even for

the 28th. If he could be done today, that would be fine.

THE COURT: That would be fine.

MR. LEHTENIN: But it does sound like what has

happened with these experts, it may be that that residual

time when Mr. Jones comes back is when Mr. Duncan would have

to testify as well.

I am not programming that, but I am just alerting

 


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everyone that that wasn't said yesterday just because I was

in Judge Highsmith's court.

THE COURT: Yes. That's All right.

MR. LEHTENIN: Thank you.

THE COURT: Thank you.

MR. GREEN: May it please the Court?

THE COURT: Yes, sir.

MR. GREEN: Your Honor, just preliminary for the

record, I would like to re-move to strike additionally Dr.

Jones' testimony in the event he does not face

cross-examination.

THE COURT: Well, I understand, and you will have

cross-examination.

MR. GREEN: Yes, sir. Your Honor, I would like to

call Dr. Michael Mocina to the stand, please.

THE COURT: All right. To your left. Yes, right

there.

MICHAEL JOHN MACEINA, Ph.D, SWORN AS A WITNESS, WAS EXAMINED

AND TESTIFIED AS FOLLOWS:

THE COURT: State your full name, please, and spell

your last name.

THE WITNESS: Michael John Maceina, M-a-c-e-i-n-a.

THE COURT: Thank you. You may proceed.

DIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MR. GREEN:

 


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Q    Good morning, Dr. Maceina.

A    Good morning.

Q    Would you briefly describe your educational background?

A    Yes. I have a Bachelor of Science Degree in Wildlife

and Forestry from the University of Florida, a Master of

Science Degree in Fishery Biology from the University of

Florida and a Ph.D in Fishery Science from Texas A & M

University.

Q    Please briefly describe your professional experience

since completing that formal education?

A    After I finished my Ph.D in 1987, I was hired as a

senior environmentalist for the South Florida Water

Management District. I worked for the Water Management

District for 3 years. I am currently at Auburn University.

Q    And what is your position at Auburn University?

A    I am associate professor.

Q    Are you currently teachings cources there?

A    I teach two classes.

Q    What are they?

A    One is in fish population dynamics. The other one is in

statistical applications. Both of those are graduate level

classes.

Q    And what sorts of subjects do you apply your statistical

applications to, just briefly?

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applicable to any type of natural resource field.

Q    Now, Dr. Maceina, I would like to read some sentences to

you from -- Your Honor, this is the memorandum in support of

the motion of the United States for partial summary judgment

on liability filed in this case on November 19, 1990.

I am reading from page 28. I would like to read a

statement to you, if I could, Dr. Maceina. It starts,

"WCA-2A wetlands receive a particularly large supply of

nutrients through the S-10 inflow structures, which

transports drainage from the Refuge, because of the large

canal system which converges on these structures and because

of their proximity to the EAA."

Do you you agree or disagree with that statement?

A    I agree with that statement.

MR. SAXE: I object as to relevancy, Your Honor.

The federal claims have been settled. They are not being

tried. I am not you sure I understand the relevancy of the

questions about the merits of the United States' summary

judgment motion.

MR. GREEN: Your Honor, this is foundational

testimony. We are just trying to reference -- if you will

bear with me for about two more minutes, we are trying to

get into the issue that Dr. Jones raised very briefly.

THE COURT: Would you read the statement again,

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MR. GREEN: Yes, Your Honor.

"WCA-2A wetlands receive a particularly large

supply of nutrients through the S-10 inflow structures,

which transport drainage from the Refuge, because of the

large canal system which converges on these structures and

because of their proximity to the EAA."

THE COURT: All right. And you agree with that

statement?

THE WITNESS: I agree with that statement.

MR. GREEN: Okay.

MR. GREEN: Now, next, I would like to leave out

the citation after that sentence and then read the next one,

Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right.

MR. GREEN: Dr. Maceina, I will read this: "The

absence of interior canals in WCA-2A forces this water to

flow across the marsh where nutrients accumulate in the

marsh through a corporation by marsh soils and vegetation

eventually saturating the system and moving farther and

farther downstream."

THE WITNESS: That is correct.

BY MR. GREEN:

Q    When you say, "That is correct," I am asking you did you

you hear Dr. Jones' testimony yesterday?

A    Yes, I did.

 


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Q    Can you tell me whether this statement reflects the

testimony you heard yesterday, whether or not --

A    It agrees with the testimony of Dr. Jones.

MR. SEARCHINGER: Objection, Your Honor. Dr. Jones

didn't testify at all about conservation area 2-A.

MR. GREEN: Excuse me. Your Honor, Dr. Jones said

that nutrients accumulate in the peat if the phosphorus

levels are raised above ten parts per billion; that the peat

becomes saturated; that the system is destroyed, and that

the nutrients just keep moving.

This is the so-called nutrient front theory that

Dr. Jones who, by the way, is referenced here as Jones

Declaration at paragraph 14 back on this page 28. That's

the theory basically he expoused yesterday.

MR. SEARCHINGER: I have no objection if it is to

his general understanding, not to water conservation area

2-A.

MR. GREEN: That is what it is.

THE COURT: All right.

BY MR. GREEN:

Q    Now, Dr. Maceina, when you were working with the Water

Management District, I think the dates you described that

since you left was back in 1990, is that correct?

A    That is correct. I left in June of 1990.

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the District, were you asked to undertake any work to

analyze data in water conservation area 2-A to determine

whether those data supported or did not support the moving

nutrient front theory?

A    In November of 1989, I was asked by the District to

assemble all the water quality data that had been collected

by the District from 1976 through September of 1988 to

analyze the nutrient front gradient that appeared to be

apparant in water conservation area 2-A.

Up to then there were some figures that had been

made. My expertise is statistical analysis. They wanted me

to statistically analyze the data to verify if that, in

fact, was true.

Q    Did you conduct such an analysis?

A    Yes, I did.

Q    When you conducted that analysis, can you tell us

whether you used standard and approved statistical

techniques?

A    Yes, I did.

Q    Thank you. Dr. Maceino, I am going to show you a

document that has been pre-marked defendant's exhibit 86 and

ask you if you can identify it? May I approach the witness,

Your Honor?

THE COURT: Yes.

THE WITNESS: Yes, I recognize this document.

 


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BY MR. GREEN:

Q    And what it is it?

A    This is part of the SWIM Plan for the Everglades that

was published in March of 1992 and pages 166, 167 and 168

reflect the results of my analysis that I conducted and held

in early 1990.

Q    Okay. I would like to refer you, if I could, to page

166, and there is a third paragraph down with an underline

under it.

"The water quality characteristics of the WCA

perimeter marsh." Do you see that paragraph?

A    Yes.

Q    And would you review that, the first two sentences of

that paragraph briefly that follow the title.

A    Yes. That is what I found.

Q    Okay. So you agree?

A    I agree with It. I agree with those two statements.

Q    Okay. Now, let's turn to page 167.

MR. SAXE: Counsel, excuse me. Exactly what

sentences are you referring to?

MR. GREEN: The first two. Let me read them out.

I was trying to save time. I apologize.

"Water quality data collected from the northern

Everglades WCA's during the late-1970's and early 1980's

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downstream from District water controlled structures within

WCA-CA-2A. The discharge of nutrient enriched canal water

across the northern portion of WCA-2A has resulted in a

nutrient gradient of decreasing phosphorus concentration

downstream of the S-10 down stream discharge structures."

Do you agree with those two sentences?

A    Yes, I do.

Q    Now, if I could ask you to go to the next page, Dr.

Maceina, and refer you to what is labeled figure 29 there

entitled, "Comparison of Average Total Phosphorus

Concentrations Downstream of the S-10-C, 1978-1979 and 1985-

1996."

Have you had a chance to examine this plot and the

data that underlie it?

A    Yes. I didn't construct this plot, but the data that

was given to me while I was employed at the District, I went

ahead and analyzed this data, and essentially came up with

the same type of schematic that's presented in figure 29.

Q    Do you agree with its basic depiction?

A    Yes. What I did essentially was do statistical analysis

on that data, basically looking at the differences in

phosphorus as you move from south -- from north to south and

essentially determined if those differences as you see in

195, 1986, which appear a lot higher, are significantly

higher than the base line period of 1978, 1979.

 


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Q    Can you tell us which way north to south goes on

thishorizontal axis?

A    Sure. North is at zero. That's essentially the

location of the S-10 structures, the S-10-C, and then going

south into water conservation area 2-A down to about 11.3

killometers, which is the 217 gage.

Q    I want to be sure I understood what you said. What does

this lot compare to? What time period?

A    This time period compares 1978, 1979, which was a period

where a lot of data was collected in area two and compared

phosphorus concentrations to 1985, 1986 essentially in the

same distance areas south of the S-10-C.

Q    Okay. Now, let's turn to the next page, please. The

second paragraph, the last sentence, and I will read it.

"These data support a number of earlier

observations that nutrient levels having increased

downstream of these water control structures over time" --

citations omitted -- "and that a "Nutrient front" has

progressed further south into WCA-2A during the 1980's."

On the basis of the data analyzed that you have

discussed so far in the SWIM document, do you agree with

that conclusion?

A    Yes. That conclusion is true.

MR. GREEN: Okay. Your Honor, I would proffer Dr.

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analysis of environmental data to discern transient water

chemistry.

THE COURT: All right. I hear no objection. He

will be received as an expert in that area.

MR. GREEN: Thank you, Your Honor.

BY MR. GREEN:

Q    Dr. Maceina, I hand you what has been marked as exhibit

7 and ask you to please identify it.

THE COURT: Now, you haven't specifically offered

86. I assume you are offering that?

MR. GREEN: Yes. Thank you, Your Honor. I would

like to go ahead and offer 86 while we are here.

THE COURT: All right. I will receive 86.

MR. GREEN: Thank you.

THE COURT: We are now working on 87.

MR. GREEN: Thank you.

BY MR. GREEN:

Q    What is that, Dr. Maceina?

A    This is a document that I submitted to Mr. Gary Perko

who is an attorney with your law firm. It is an update on

looking at changes in total phosphorus in water conservation

area 2-A, using data now all the way through September of

1994.

Q    I would ask you to look at page 1 of this document and

just read outloud the second and third sentence in that

 


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page, please.

A    "There is absolutely no evidence that the phosphorus

front has moved further south from the S-10 structure since

1978-'79 due to anthropogenic loading from the upstream

basin. In fact, the reversal of the process appears to be

occurring."

Q    And read the next sentence, too, please.

A    "Total phosphorus concentrations. TP concentrations

continue to climb in 1994 from 1995, '86 and 1991, '92."

Q    Is that your opinion?

A    Yes.

Q    Now, how did you reach that opinion?

A    I was able to gather data from 1989 through 1994. Most

of the data was collected by the South Florida Water

Management District. I re-analyzed the data, compared it to

the results that were collected during the base line period

of 1977, '79.

Q    And in the interests of time, Dr. Maceina, can you come

up and just point out on the chart the evidence that

supports your opinion?

A    Do you have a pointer?

Q    First, I would ask you to identify this demonstrative

aid which is labeled figure 1.

A    Figure 1 one is the document marked in evidence as 87.

Q    And what does that show, Dr. Maceina?

 


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A    This is analogous to figure 29, which is evidence 86.

Here is the base line period 1978, '79. Here is your

different distance zones coming south of the S-10-C, so this

is the northern portion of WCA-2.

This is moving further south of the marsh. You see

very, very high total phosphorus concentrations in '78, '79.

It declined rapidly. Here is the period of '85, '86, which

is also that data is presented in figure 29 and evidence 86.

You see fairly high phosphorus concentrations

relatively similar to those measured in '78, '79, but now in

'85, 86, they are much, much higher than they were in '78,

'79, indicating that the nutrient front has moved further

south.

If we take the most recent data in 1994, I've also

analyzed 1991, 1992. The same phenomena is apparent. You

see now a decline in total phosphorus concentrations, and

levels have essentially dropped essentially to the

background levels that were measured in 1978, '79. So,

there is still a gradient that exists in the marsh.

However, that front is now the same as it was in 1978, '79.

There is no evidence right now to suggest that the nutrient

front has moved further south.

Q    Dr. Maceina, does this analysis support Dr. Jones'

theory about the moving nutrient front?

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probable ideal SWIM Plan, but based on the latest data

analysis, there is absolutely no statistical evidence to

show the nutrient front has moved further south.

THE COURT: May I ask you a question at this point?

MR. GREEN: Yes, sir.

THE COURT: Do I gather that there is no build up

from decade to decade? That is, you show, for example, the

experience -- I forget which line. It is the larger broken

line.

THE WITNESS: That's 1985, '86.

THE COURT: You show a fairly high concentration

pretty well downstream.

THE WITNESS: That's correct.

THE COURT: And then for '94, '95, you show a much

lesser contribution. What has happened to the concentration

that existed in 1985?

THE WITNESS: Phosphorus is very dynamic in this

system, and I believe it is primarily regulated by internal

forces, and that when the marsh gets low, dries out

phosphorus is re-memoralized out of the soil and comes back

in the water column.

Over a period of time, this phosphorus will settle

back down into the soil. And the one thing to remember is

that this marsh has operated essentially as a lake for 20

years. When the new regulation schedule was put in effect

 


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in 1981, we went back to a normal wet-dry cycle, and

phosphorus concentrations were extremely unstable in the

marsh for 10 years, and now they appear to be stablizing.

THE COURT: I think I understand what you said, but

what has happened to the phosphorus concentration that

existed in '85?

THE WITNESS: Well, phosphorus is neither created

or destroyed. A lot of this phosphorus has probably now

settled back down into the soils.

THE COURT: It doesn't, what do they say,

biodegrade?

THE WITNESS: It doesn't biodegrade. It goes into

the peat soil and into the plants.

THE COURT: So If it has been building up south of

the entry point in different levels, it doesn't accumulate?

THE WITNESS: Yes, sir, it does accumulate.

THE COURT: It does?

THE WITNESS: Yes.

THE COURT: Well, that's why I am having difficulty

understanding why in '95 it would be so much less than in

'85 and before.

MR. GREEN: Can I ask a clarifying question?

THE COURT: Yes.

BY MR. GREEN:

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A    It accumulates in the soil. In many cases it

accumulates in the soil that's no longer available.

THE COURT: Is that what you are testing or are you

testing the water.

THE WITNESS: Well, in this case we are testing the

water. You asked me where the phosphorus went. It went

into the soil.

THE COURT: Into the soil?

THE WITNESS: Into the soil.

THE COURT: Does that have any affect on later

water problems? Does it come back up again as you suggest?

THE WITNESS: Well, we've gone through different

hydroperiods in the Everglades, and all, and it remains to

be seen, and certainly this needs to be examined over time,

but since 1991, it appears that the phosphorus

concentrations have declined and we are --

THE COURT: Declined in the water?

THE WITNESS: Declined in the water. You know,

phosphorus continues to build over time, no matter what kind

of system you have. The question is are we in a more stable

type of situation right now?

THE COURT: And your answer is, yes, to that?

THE WITNESS: Yes. There is no evidence, based on

the state analysis, that the nutrient front is moving

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THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

BY MR. GREEN:

Q    Do you have another poster just while you are up here?

A    Yes. I analyzed the data lots of different ways. This

is below the S-10-C. I pulled the data for all the S-10's.

I looked at many different time periods that are listed in

exhibit 87.

Q    What figure?

A    I am sorry. This is figure 2 in evidence 87. If we

take a look at '83, '84, it is two years after the new

regulations schedule is put into effect. There is very,

very high phosphorus concentrations, declining, and now when

we look at 1994, we see that we are much lower, particularly

close to the S-10 structures.

Q    If I may ask a leading question? Is this a 10 year

period?

A    This is essentially a 10 year difference.

Q    Okay. Now, Dr. Moceina, did you hear Dr. McClave and

Dr. Goforth yesterday testify that in general the data seems

to show the Loxahatchee phosphorus measurements are back to

the levels of 1978 and '79?

A    Yes. They appear to be at the some base line levels.

Q    Would you agree with their conclusions?

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A    Why? Because water flows to the Loxahatchee marsh, and

if it flows to the Loxahatchee marsh and it has remained

unchanged over this let's say 15 year period of time, there

is no reason to believe it has reremained unchanged in area

1 that it should not remain unchanged in area 2.

Q    Do you have an opinion on whether the phosphorus front,

if you will, south of the S-10's is back to the same way it

looked in 1978, '79; whether it is or not?

A    Could you restate the question again. Back to the same

levels. It is lower. It is lower right below the S-10's in

1994 then it was in '78, '79. Other than that, the

concentrations are basically the same; '78, '79 as they are

in 1994.

Q    What is the source of that water?

A    The source of that water is from area 1.

Q    So, because that's a source, does that give you any

additional information one way or the other on whether the

Loxahatchee has returned to the '78, '79 levels?

A    Yes. I mean, that is what the data showed that we saw

yesterday, that it returned to those levels. So, if it

appears to be the same or it is the same in the Loxahatchee,

there is no reason to believe that it is not the same in

area 2.

MR. GREEN: Your Honor, Dr. Maceina is available

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THE COURT: All right. Thank You. Who would like

to begin?

MR. GREEN: I am sorry. Could I move exhibit 87

first, please?

THE COURT: All right. I hear no objection. I

will receive 87.

MR. GREEN: Thank you, Your Honor.

THE COURT: Now, would you like Dr. Maceina to stay

down here, Mr. Lehtenin?

MR. LEHTENIN: That's fine. I have very little.

CROSS-EXAMINATION

BY MR. LEHTINEN:

Q    This is just based on or this is based upon data that

the Water Management District has?

A    Yes, that's correct.

Q    And let me show you or let me ask you about, you think

this phosphorus was not destroyed. The 1985, 1986

phosphorus is still somewhere there, right?

A    For sure.

Q    It is just not shown in this data?

A    It is not shown in the water column.

Q    Right. Isn't that part of the problem, that the

phosphorus goes into the soil?

A    Well --

MR. GREEN: Excuse me. Objection. The problem has

 


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not been defined.

BY MR. LEHTINEN:

Q    Well, let me ask you this: As the expert that you have

been, I didn't object because it sounded okay when Mr. Green

said an expert, but I wasn't sure what it was, to tell you

the truth, but I was willing to let you testify,

Perhaps I will ask it this way: Do you have an

opinion about the effect that that phosphorus being in the

soil will have on the Everglades?

A    I have no opinion on that.

Q    Okay. So, then, let me show you the draft impact

statement from the Corp of Engineers. On page 123 -- this

was passed out many times, Your Honor. Do you you see that

open there?

MR. GREEN: Mr. Lehtenin, can I can find my copy?

MR. LEHTENIN: Yes.

THE COURT: I probably have a copy of it if we have

used it before.

MR. LEHTENIN: Yes, Your Honor, although, actually

this may be much ado --

THE COURT: Thank you.

BY MR. LEHTINEN:

Q    That is a map that purports to show phosphorus

influences at various discharge structures in or around

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MR. GREEN: Excuse me. Could you repeat the

question, Mr. court reporter.

MR. LEHTENIN: Oh, I am sorry.

THE COURT: Why don't you restate the question, Mr.

Lehtenin.

BY MR. LEHTINEN:

Q    Does that map purport to show or the heading shows

phosphorous influences around canals and discharge

structures?

A    That is what the label says.

Q    Perhaps it is out of your area to lead you into that.

Do you have an opinion about whether phosphorus could cause

those influences that are shown on the map?

MR. GREEN: Objection, Your Honor. That's a very

broad question. This witness has been offered to give a

statistical analysis of water quality data south of the S-10

structures for purposes of testing the moving water column

nutrient hypothesis. This goes beyond the scope of his

testimony.

BY MR. LEHTINEN:

Q    So let me ask you this: We may be establishing what I

want to drive at. What effect the phosphorus has is outside

of your area of expertise?

A    No, I have looked at a lot of the data that's out

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growth.

Q    Okay. Is that a little bit different than when you

testified earlier, and I asked you what happens if that

phosphorus is in the soil, or let me ask you that, based on

your answer.

What happens if this phosphorus from '85, '86,

which is not in that water column now, what would the effect

be if it went into the soil as you said it might have done?

A    It all depends on the bioavoilability of that

phosphorus, which I can't really answer.

MR. LEHTINEN: Okay. Well, I have no further

questions, Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right. Mr. Searchinger.

MR. SEARCHINGER: Thank you, Your Honor. You can

sit down.

CROSS-EXAMINATION

BY MR. SEARCHINGER:

Q    Dr. Maceina, you would degree, wouldn't you, that

phosphorus is continuing to come through the S-10 structure

at a level above background concentrations, is that correct?

A    Nobody has ever measured background concentrations, so I

cannot answer that.

Q    Okay. But would you agree that the phosphorous coming

through the S-10 structure is higher than the phosphorus

downstream of the S-10 structure in the water column?

 


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A    That is correct.

Q    Do you have an opinion on what is stopping the expansion

or what is taking up the nutrients on the way down from the

S-10 structures to that lower area?

MR. GREEN: Asked and answered. Your Honor asked

that same question, I believe.

THE COURT: Now, the question is do you have an

opinion what is taking up the --

MR. SEARCHINGER: What is happening to that

phosphorus? What is preventing it? Essentially, what is

preventing that nutrient from expanding.

THE COURT: Go ahead and deal with it again.

THE WITNESS: Two things will take it up. The soil

will take it up. Sometimes you have direct precipitation of

phosphorus in the soil, and then plants will take the

phosphorus.

BY MR. SEARCHINGER:

Q    Would you agree that the fact that that zone is already

impacted has significance for how it is taking up

phosphorus?

MR. GREEN: Objection. There is no definition of

impacted. It is a very general question.

THE COURT: I think I know what you mean. Go

ahead.

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Q    Would you agree that the area south of the S-10

structure is high in phosphorus in the sediment and has a

lot of cattails in it?

A    That's true. Directly south of the S-10 area the water

is relatively high in phosphorus compared to the rest of the

Everglades, and it does have cattail in it.

Q    Do you think that has anything to do with your theory

that it is blocking the nutrient expansion?

MR. GREEN: Objection to the form. Would you

repeat the question. I think you will see it.

BY MR. SEARCHINGER

Q    Do you have an opinion on whether or not that cattail

and nutrient enrichment is slowing the rate of or blocking

the rate of or blocking nutrient expansion?

A    I think any type of plant life emergent plant life and

associated microbes would also cause a decrease in

phosphorus concentrations.

Q    Now, did you hear Dr. Jones testify that the northern

end of conservation area 3-A is relatively pristine from the

standpoint of phosphorus yesterday?

A    How do you define pristine?

Q    Has low phosphorus concentrations in the sediment water.

A    Yes.

Q    What do you think? Now, you heard that Mr. Gherini

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into that area directly from the EAA instead of having the

phosphorus go through the impacted area south of water

conservation area 2-A.

MR. GREEN: Objection, Your Honor. That

mischaracterizes the testimony. Mr. Gherini showed what the

implementation of the Everglades Forever Act plan would show

when you spread phosphorus into the northern areas. In

fact, I think there is a chart still up there that shows the

EFA plan.

Mr. Gherini was simply analyzing,from the computer

simulation, what effects that would have. He made no

proposals.

MR. SEARCHINGER: Well, I thought in discussing it,

Your Honor. He was recommending it.

THE COURT: Change the form of your question.

MR. SEARCHINGER: Okay.

BY MR. SEARCHINGER:

Q    Do you have an opinion on what is likely to happen in

terms of expanding nutrient front if water is coming in to

the top, now this pristine area in top of conservation area

3-A?

A    Well, I have shown there is no expanding nutrient front.

Q    You have shown there is no expanding nutrient front in

2-A?

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opinion on it.

Q    Do you think it is possible that there may be a

different impact of moving water through an area that's

already filled with cattail and has high phosphorus in the

sediment, that in putting it in an area that doesn't have

cattail and has low phosphorus in the sediment?

A    I can't speculate on that.

Q    Okay. Now, your testimony, as I understand from looking

at your chart, you are comparing, all you are comparing is

data from '83, '84 and '78, '79 with data from 1994, is that

correct?

A    If you take a look at all the figures that are in that

exhibit, 87, as well as the table, I have made multiple

comparisons over time which all show the same trend.

Q    Have you made any analysis of whether or not phosphorus

is or have you made any analysis of whether or not there is

an expanding nutrient front in the sediment in water

conservation area 2-A?

A    No, I have not done that.

Q    You heard Dr. Jones testify that what impacts the

micro-organisms and the macrophytes is phosphorus enrichment

in the sediment. Do you have an opinion on that statement?

A    No, I don't.

Q    Would you agree that the actual phosphorus

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or not we are in a high rainfall or low rainfall year?

A    I've done some other analysis, and there is no

relationship at all between phosphorus loading or phosphorus

concentrations coming through the S-10's.

Q    That's not my question.

A    I am sorry.

Q    Phosphorus --

MR. GREEN: Would you let the witness finish his

answer, please, counsel.

THE COURT: Yes. Go ahead and finish your answer.

THE WITNESS: I have done some other analysis on

this, and this is an analysis I did while I was at the

District. There is no relationship at all between the

phosphorous concentration coming in or the phosphorus load

coming into the S-10 and total phosphorus concentrations in

the water column in area 2.

BY MR. SEARCHINGER:

Q    Okay. What about the relationship between how much rain

is falling on area 2 and how much water is in area 2 and

concentration in the water column?

A    Typically, when water levels are high phosphorus,

concentrations decline.

Q    Was 1994 a high water year?

A    I haven't seen any staged data, but from talking to

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Florida, so I assume that it was.

Q    Isn't it possible that we could be seeing significant

fluctuations in the water column phosphorus concentration

and yet have an expanding sediment nutrient front?

A    I can't speculate on that because I don't have any data.

Q    Okay. Do you know how long it takes sediment to absorb

water from or absorb phosphorus from the water column?

A    That depends on a variety of chemical and biological

factors.

Q    Would you agree that in some cases it can take minutes?

A    Sure.

Q    So isn't it possible that an area could be receiving,

let's say an area down at the bottom end of this nutrient

gradient, that that could be receiving phosphorus that is

rapidly absorbed into the sediment and then reveals a water

column concentration that isn't all that high?

A    That's possible, yes.

Q    Do you have an opinion on whether sediments can become

saturated with phosphorus?

A    I have no opinion on that.

Q    Okay. Have you ever heard of sediment saturation?

A    Yes, I have.

Q    What does it mean?

A    Like I say, I have heard of it, but I am not

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to state an opinion on that.

Q    Okay. Now, doctor or Mr. Gherini testified that there

was a higher settling rate of phosphorus closeer to the EAA

than there was of a settling rate for phosphorus as you went

down through water conservation area 2-A.

MR. GREEN: Objection, Your Honor. That's exactly

the opposite of what Mr. Gherini testified to.

MR. SEARCHINGER: I am sorry. You are right. A

lower settling rate of phosphorus in the area immediately

just below the EAA and a higher settling rate as you went

down. You are right. I apologize. I misspoke.

BY MR. SEARCHINGER

Q    Doesn't that evidence suggest a standing nutrient front?

A    I can't comment on that because I am not a phosphorous

dynamics modeler.

Q    Okay. Do you have an opinion on whether or not the

plant, that the cattail community in water conservation area

2-A is likely to be more or is more likely to return to a

sawgrass Everglades community if phosphorus continues to

come in that area at the existing concentrations through the

S-10 structure?

A    Based on my analysis and my observations in water

conservation area 2-A, I believe the hydroperiod is the most

dominant factor. When I was out in the marsh in 1989, right

below the S-10 structures, sawgrass was reappearing in

 


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conservation area 2-A, but yet you had phosphorus

concentrations in the water columns of 4 to 5, 600 parts per

billion. Extremely high.

Q    So you do have an opinion on what causes cattail in the

marsh?

A    Yes, I do.

Q    Are you aware of Dr. Jones' work which shows that or I

think he said 99.9 percent correlation between the existence

of cattail in the marsh and elevated concentrations of

phosphorus in the southern?

MR. GREEN: Objection, Your Honor. This witness

heard Dr. Jones testimony, but there is no data in evidence

to support any of that.

MR. SEARCHINGER: Well, Dr. Jones testified he has

a published paper on that.

THE COURT: Yes. I will overrule the objection,

THE WITNESS: I have not seen the published paper.

I would be interested in seeing it. It doesn't surprise me,

based on previous analysis. The problem with all this, and

this has been brought up before, is that tigh phosphorus

concentrations in the soil, high water column phosphorus

concentrations coming from inflows is highly correlated with

hydro-period. It is also highly correlated with sodium

Choride.

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doctor?

THE WITNESS: Hydroperiod is the frequency in of

inundation. Essentially, if a wetland is covered through

January through June, there is a hydroperiod of 50 Percent,

and in the case below the S-10's, it is nearly a 100 percent

hydro-period which favors the growth of cattails.

In addition, due to the sub-science because of the

building of the L-39 canal, that area is a lot deeper. It

has been a disturbed area. The deeper water, along with the

the high hydroperiod, in conjunction -- I believe there is

an inner action going on here with nutrients, and that this

is why you have cattails there. 3 factors. Hydroperiod,

disturbance, and to a lesser extent, nutrients.

BY MR. SEARCHINGER:

Q    Do you agree that there are areas that have cattail in

interior portions of the marsh that have no different

hydroperiods from the areas adjacent to them?

A    The areas that I have seen in the interior of the marsh

tend to be slightly disturbed areas or lightly deeper areas.

Any place you go pretty much through the Everglades area,

the Everglades protection area where there is a canal that's

been dug or a ditch that's been dug, you always have

cattails which correspond to deeper water. Phosphorus

concentrations can be as low as ten parts per billion in

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Q    And isn't there a deep water area at the bottom of water

conservation area 3-A?

A    Yes, there is.

Q    Is there cattail are?

A    Yes, there are. Along the canal there are.

Q    What about in the large pool that extends up through the

water conservation area?

A    They have not been exactly along that area. I don't

know how for they go back. In area 2 they go back about

half a mile from the canal.

Q    In the canal. You don't know if they go back --

A    I don't know how far they go back.

Q    It is an extended pool, isn't it, in the bottom of water

conservation 3-A? Isn't that the deepest?

A    At times it is. It depends on the regulation schedule.

The water tends to be deep.

Q    Yes. It is the deeper portion of the Everglades as a

whole right now, isn't it?

A    In respect to water level?

Q    In respect to water level for any extend area in the

Everglades.

A    I can't comment on that.

Q    Okay.

MR. SEARCHINGER: I have no further questions, Your

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THE COURT: All right, sir.

MR. SAXE: Your Honor, in light of the questions of

cross of other counsel and the Court's questions, in the

spirit of moving this along, no further cross from the

settling parties.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. Then we will have

redirect at this point.

MR. GREEN: We have none, Your Honor.

THE COURT: You may step down.

(WITNESS EXCUSED)

MR. GREEN: Your Honor, may it please the Court.

My partner, Mr. Sams, would like to call our second witness.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you.

MR. SAMS: Your Honor, I will call Mr. Bigham.

THE COURT: Mr. Bigham. All right.

MR. SAMS: While he has approaching the witness

box, I would just state to the Court that I haven't

previously entered a formal appearance, but I have been in

the past admitted to practice before this Court.

THE COURT: Fine.

GARY NEIL BIGHAM, SWORN AS A WITNESS, WAS EXAMINED AND

TESTIFIED AS FOLLOWS:

THE COURT: Sit down, please, sir, and tell us your

full name and spell your last name, please.

THE WITNESS: My name is Gary Neil Bigham,

 


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B-i-g-h-a-m.

THE COURT: Thank you. You may proceed, Mr. Sams.

DIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MR. SAMS:

Q    Mr. Bigham, by whom are you employed and in what

capacity?

A    I am employed by PTI Environmental Services, and I am a

principal with that firm.

Q    And where is that firm located?

A    In Bellview, Washington.

Q    And what is the business of PTI Environmental Services

and the scope of its compliment of employees?

A    PTI is a consulting firm. We specialize in

environmental sciences. We have a total of about 135 people

in the firm and 5 offices across the country.

Q    Briefly outline your higher educational background,

please?

A    I have a Bachelor's Degree in geology from Oregon State

University which I received in 1968; a Master's Degree from

Georgia Tech which I received in 1972.

Q    And in what areas of concentration did you work in in

your Master's Degree studies?

A    My degree was in geophysical sciences there. It was

primarily in geochemistry and hydrology.

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A    Water quality.

Q    Did that experience include water quality?

A    Yes, it did.

Q    Could you summarize briefly your employment experiences

insofar as pertinent. Briefly outline its relevance to your

testimony today.

A    Yes. After receiving my Master's Degree, I went to work

for the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers at their Water Ways

Experiment Station in Bicksburg, Mississippi. There I

helped develop and get started a major research project for

the Corp on evaluating the effects of dredging and dredge

material disposal in rivers and oceans and estuaries.

I later then went to and joined the Los Angeles

District of the Corp where I my primary job there was

evaluation of affects of major harbor expansion on water

quality levels in Los Angeles harbor.

In '74 I joined the consulting firm of Tetra Tech,

and over the course of several years was involved in

evaluating the affects of disposal of many types of

materials into the ocean and into fresh waters, looking at

really the fate and water quality and biological affects of

those activities.

In 1987, then, I was one of the founders of PTI

Environmental Services, and continuing the same types of

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doing risk assessment to human health and ecological

systems.

Q    Mr. Bigham, what is your area of expertise as you would

describe it?

A    My area of expertise is evaluation of transport fate and

affects of contaminants in aquatic environments.

Q    Have you conducted studies of the transport fate and

affects of mercury in aquatic environments?

A    Yes, I have. Beginning in 1990, or since 1990, I should

say, I have been project manager of one of the largest

investigations of a behavior and affects of mercury in

aquatic systems, specifically in Onondaga Lake In New York.

We started by doing extensive field program

analysis of total mercury and various mercury species; how

it behaved in the lake; perform a mass balance on the

system.

We developed a numerical model to describe how that

mercury behaves, including how it bioaccumlates up through

the food level of the particular lake.

Q    In addition to your work in New York, are you involved

with the interpretation of mercury cycling and

bioaccumulation in other areas?

A    Yes, I am. I am currently engaged to evaluate behavior

of mercury at other sites in New Jersey, Alabama, Georgia.

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assessment.

Q    How long have scientists in the U.S. been analyzing

mercury cycling and bioaccumulation in the manner that you

have done, say, for Onondaga Lake in New York?

A    Well, actually, not very long. It is a fairly new

endeavor, primarily because only until about the mid to late

'80's have we had the analytical tools to even be able to

analyze for mercury and various mercury species at the very

low concentrations that occur in natural waters.

Frequently we talk of things being in the parts per

million, or sometimes lower in parts per billion, but the

level of the concentration of concern for mercury and methyl

mercury is in the parts per trillion range.

Q    Have you authored or co-authored any peer review

publications in the area?

A    Yes, I have. I am a principal author or first author of

one publication and co-authored 3 others regarding mercury

cycling and bioaccumulation.

Q    At this point, Your Honor, I would offer Mr. Bigham as

an expert in the transport, fate and affects of mercury in

the environment.

MR. NETTLETON: Your Honor, we don't have any

objection to Mr. Bigham's qualifications. However, we do

object just generally to the relevancy of this whole line of

testimony concerning mercury, and it doesn't appear to

 


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relate to any of the motions that are pending before Your

Honor.

THE COURT: All right. I will take that objection

under advisement, and we will proceed with the testimony.

MR. SAMS: Thank you, Your Honor.

BY MR. SAMS:

Q    Mr. Bigham, is there a mercury bioaccumlation problem in

the Everglades?

A    Yes, there certainly is. There is currently a fish

consumption advisory over I think approximately two million

acres of the Everglades basically from coast to coast.

There is also evidence that higher level organisms are being

impacted by mercury bioaccumulation. One, of course, I

think high profile example was the Florida panther where

mercury may very well have been a contributing factor in a

death of a couple of animals.

Also, there is emerging data that indicates that

many of the wading bird species in the Everglades are

definitely being exposed and potentially affected by high

levels of mercury.

Q    When you speak of a fish advisory, what are you speaking

of, sir?

A    That is that the State Health Department has issued an

advisory to the public that they should limit their

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Q    Are there agencies studies underway of the problem that

you have described.

A    Well, yes, there are. Fairly recently there is one of

the larger mercury investigations I think in this country is

underway funded by EPA. I believe certainly I think funds

are also from the State of Florida and also from the South

Florida Water Management District.

Q    Have you conducted analysis of the behavior of mercury

and its affects in the Everglades for our clients?

A    Yes, I have.

Q    What was the purpose of your analysis?

A    The purpose of my analysis was to see if there was a

relationship at all between phosphorus concentrations in the

Everglades and concentrations of mercury in fish tissue.

Q    Did you find such a relationship?

A    Yes, we did. We found basically an inverse

relationship. That is, that as concentrations of phosphorus

decrease in the water, we tend to find elevated

concentrations of mercury in fish tissues; specifically some

of the small, what we call forage fish tend to be fed on by

other organisms.

Q    What is the environmental significance of the

relationship between mercury in water and mercury in fish?

A    Mercury is somewhat unusual as a contamenant in natural

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the methyl form of the mercury. Methyl mercury that

bioaccumlates.

It first seems to enter the food web by absorbing

on to plankton, periphtyon, which is then consumed by these

small fish that we have a fair amount of data for now.

Those fish are in turn consumed by larger fish, and

in each step of the way, the concentration of mercury in the

tissues of those organisms increases, and then toward the

end of the food web, organisms such as the wading birds then

get exposed to quite high concentrations of mercury via

their diet.

Q    What affects do elevated concentrations of mercury in,

say, the tissue of wading birds have?

A    The affects on wading birds have been shown in lab

studies, as well as recent evidence from the Everglades, to

have affects on both the behavior and reproductive success

of wading birds.

Q    I assume those are adverse affects, is that correct?

A    Yes, sir, they are.

Q    Have you produced a report on such affects in the

Everglades that could arise from proposed reductions in

phosphorus concentrations?

A    Yes, I have.

Q    I believe that report is the one that we have

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A    That's correct.

Q    If I could, Mr. Bigham, I would like to first ask you to

turn to pages 29 and 30 of your report. Can you demonstrate

to the Court or describe for the Court using those pages the

inverse relationship that you have identified in the

Everglades?

A    Yes, I can. If you first turn to page 30, which is

figure 14, figure 14 shows the locations of the data we have

available, and some of the data we have available to us and

these are data, by the way, that were collected by EPA in

their continuing sampling program.

There are two series of stations. The first one

starts at about the S-6 structure and proceeds eastward into

the Loxahatchee.

The second profile starts at about the S-10

structure and proceeds southward in WCA-2A basically along

that same gradient that Dr. Maceina was talking about.

Q    If I could interrupt you for just a second, Mr. Bigham.

Is the transect that you just described south of the S-10

structures in the same location that Dr. Maceina just

referred to in his testimony concerning the so-called moving

phosphorus front?

A    Yes, it is.

Q    Go ahead, please.

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these show the phosphorus in water data and mercury in --

and this is a small fish I was talking about -- the mosquito

fish on those two transacts, and the panel on top of the

page is that first transect I described.

What we are looking at now is on the bottom

horizontal axis is distance from the S-6 structure and then

going eastward into the Loxahatchee. The solid line

represents the total phosphorus concentration, and you can

see as right in the vicinity of the canal, or that I guess

it is the Tetra Tech model cell number 1, you can see that

there is relatively high phosphorus concentrations on this

particular sampling, around 50 parts per billion or

micrograms per liter, and that as we proceed eastward, that

it drops pretty quickly down to values in the vicinity of

ten parts per billion.

Now, along that some transect, if you look at the

concentrations in mosquito fish, and bear in mind that

mosquito fish have a relatively small range in the

Everglades. They never go very far. Their range is on the

order of maybe a hundred meters or so. So, they are

typically exposed to whatever is going on right in that

immediate location.

You can see that there is a very dramatic

difference here; that the concentrations or where we have

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very low. As the phosphorus concentrations decrease, the

concentration of mosquito fish go up.

Then in the second panel we see a similar type of

relationship, and that is as we start with looking at

phosphorus concentrations at the S-10 structure. Of course,

it is high, a lot higher than before it is up around 90

parts per billion and drops quickly and ultimately gets down

to that same, around ten parts per billion level. Of

course, once it is down there, we see that concentrations in

mosquito fish again are going up. This time the direct

maximum value is up to around 250 parts per billion in fish

tissue. So that is the basically the inverse relationship

or one manifestation of the inverse relationship.

Q    Mr. Bigham, I believe you have already stated it, but

just for clarification, are these based on EPA data?

A    Yes, they are.

Q    Is the mosquito fish or <TKPWAPL> abuse yeah, the fish

that EPA has chosen to handle In its work?

A    Yes, it is. EPA is using the mosquito fish basically as

an indicator species of how in general mercury is being

bioaccumulated by these smaller fish species.

THE COURT: May I ask a question?

MR. SAMS: Certainly, Your Honor.

THE COURT: Mr. Bigham, given this relationship and

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this change; the differences that taked place?

THE WITNESS: Yes. I described in the report what

we think is a very plausible reason for this; why we see

this affect.

THE COURT: Are you going to get into that?

MR. SAMS: I would be happy for him to complete the

answer to the Court's inquiry.

THE COURT: Is this a matter of post-hope

reasoning, or is it based on some connection?

THE WITNESS: Could you explain the form of that,

sir?

THE COURT: Well, the post hoc ergo propter hoc.

THE WITNESS: I am not familiar with that, Your

Honor.

THE COURT: Well, forgive me. Something was not

there before. It is there after. It must be the cause of.

In other words, we have a difference. We have two

changes that are taking place, and so the reason you assign

a cause to them is because they took place.

THE WITNESS: Let me explain what we believe is the

reason behind this relationship. First of all, understand

that the source of mercury is primarily from precipitation.

In fact, it is typically on the order of about 30 parts per

trillion rainfall.

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natural over the last several decades concentration of

mercury in precipitation has roughly doubled. So, we have

over the Everglades then pretty much everywhere a loading of

mercury to the system.

Now, as I said, the first place that mercury enters

the food chain is it gets absorbed into plankton. In fact,

it is just recently that there is, just a couple of papers

that have described that mechanism as to how methyl mercury

gets up getting concentrated in the psydoplasm or in the

interior of plankton or periphyton cells, but it is fairly

clear that's happened.

We have very good evidence of that from our study.

There is a big concentration that takes place there. It

gets multiplied by about a thousand times the concentration

that was in the water, and now the concentration in the

plankton.

Organisms then might be phytoplankton. It might be

small fish eat that, and it gets, as I described before, it

gets bioaccumulated, but the relationship with phosphorus is

this: That if you had two bodies of water that are

basically the same mercury concentration, and in one we have

more plankton and the other we have less plankton, that

available mass of mercury is going to absorb on to the

surface of the particles of plankton, right, and the more

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the particles.

All right. And since this is basically the fish

food, it turns out that then that the food web where we have

higher nutrient concentrations ends up showing lower levels

of bioaccumulation and, conversely, if we have that same

mass of mercury, fewer particles available, that mass is

going to absorb at a higher concentration on to those

particles, so that now that food web in the lower phosphorus

or lower nutrient condition tends to bioaccumulate more

strongly.

Now, this has actually been, as I can explain

further, also been observed in other systems. It is not

unique to the Everglades. This has been noted in some

studies in Minnesota. It has been noted in other lakes in

Florida. It has also been observed in Sweden.

THE COURT: And so what does that mean? Does that

mean that phosphorus is good?

THE WITNESS: Basically, the bottom line of my

entire analysis, Your Honor, is that in the course of

setting phosphorus standards, I think one needs to be very

much aware that you may very well be setting a level of

exposure to mercury that we believe this -- I certainly

believe that this is a very important relationship that

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but it is a serious affect that needs to be looked at more

completely.

THE COURT: Do I hear you saying that we should be

careful about about how much we decrease the phosphorus

content?

THE WITNESS: I think it needs to be researched

much, much further so that we have a much better idea of

what the consequences of a particular phosphorus level would

be in terms of mercury bioaccumulation, which we know is

already at problem levels.

THE COURT: Thank you.

BY MR. SAMS:

Q    If I may return to the descriptions of the work that is

contained in your report. Why did you choose wading birds

as you have described it to the Court as the focus of your

study?

A    For a couple of reasons. One was that wading birds are

at the top of the food web, basically. So this process of

bioaccumulation and biomagnification, the maximum impact is

typically seen at the very top of the food web.

It also turned out that -- well, as I said, too,

there is recent evidence that indicates right from the

Everglades work that's being done for the state has shown

that it is very clear that the wading birds are exposed to

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The second reason was that the EPA had just,

especially was just in the process of, when we started our

analysis last year, of developing for the first time water

quality criteria for the protection of wildlife.

Previously, all water quality criteria has been

usually for the protection of human health or the protection

of aquatic organisms; that is, the fish in the water, but

never for protection of wildlife; in this case, fish eating

birds and mamals.

They did this for the Great Lakes, and the value,

in fact, those regulations were finalized earlier this year,

and the value of mercury that they came up with was 1.3

parts per trillion as the water quality standard to be

productive of wildlife.

THE COURT: To be what protective?

THE WITNESS: To be protective of wildlife, yes,

Your Honor. Of course, their analysis was largely based on

birds as a consumer. So we felt that that was a reasonable

indicator to choose, and also that it was prudent to proceed

with this, to look at these risks because concentrations of

mercury in the Everglades typically exceed 1.3 parts per

trillion. We often find levels higher than that, so it

looked like a good indicator.

BY MR. SAMS:

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A    Our report concluded, as I stated a bit ago, is that we

think that, you know, based on our screening level risk

assessment, it was quite clear that the potential for harm

in lowering the phosphorus concentrations in the Everglades

further was real, and that definitely warranted further

evaluation to have a better idea of exactly what that trade

off looked like.

Q    Did you identify a phosphorus concentration in water at

which you anticipated bioaccumulation would be of concern;

mercury bioaccumulation?

A    Well, what we found was that there was the data kind of

falls out into two regions. In the general area of 40 to 50

parts per billion phosphorus. Above that level we never see

concentrations of mercury in the mosquito fish over let's

say roughly 300 parts per billion.

However, once you get below that level of 40 to 50

parts per billion phosphorus, you can get almost any value.

They are not all high. Some are low, but the important

thing is there doesn't seem to be anything at those low

phosphorus levels that is limiting the degree of

bioaccumulation.

Q    Could you describe briefly for the Court how you

conducted this study to arrive at this conclusion?

A    Yes. The way we did the analysis, which is pretty much

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well, first of all, we started with the phosphorus

concentrations from the Tetra Tech phosphorus model that

gave us the distribution of phosphorus concentrations around

the Everglades; in fact, for each of the cells that are

still up on the exhibit there.

We then took the data we had for phosphorus in

water, mercury and mosquito fish so that we could apply a

regression equation to that so that we could predict under

any or for any given phosphorus concentration what would the

concentration be in a small mosquito fish like fish.

All right. We then assumed, which is the same

assumption that the EPA made in the Great Lakes analysis,

which I think is reasonable, that when a larger fish, if it

feeds on these smaller fish, it ends up with roughly 5 times

the mercury concentration.

Then wading birds basically eat the larger fish,

and that's the dosage that it is getting. We have

literature values that tell us typically how much this fish

they eat. We also know how much the birds typically weigh

so that we can get, make an estimate of the actual exposure

or dosage of mercury that would go into a typical wading

bird.

So we take that value you, then, and we can compare

that with what is called a toxicity reference value that was

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analysis, and that toxicity reference value or TRB is

basically it is considered to be the exposure or dosage

above which adverse affects would be expected.

All right. So that is basically the yard stick

that we use for coming to our conclusion in this risk

assessment as to whether we would expect adverse affects or

not.

Q    Have you attempted to verify whether all of the

available data from the Everglades are consistent with your

finding?

A    Yes, we have. Each time we get another set of data from

EPA as a continuing monitoring program, we have replotted

and compared the data sets, and it has been remarkably

consistent.

MR. SAMS: At this point I would like to turn your

attention to what we have premarked as exhibit number 84.

Your Honor, we have a blow up of that, if I may.

THE COURT: May I ask a question before you get

into that?

MR. SAMS: Certainly.

THE COURT: Where does the mercury come from, by

and large?

THE WITNESS: Well, the mercury that's in the

atmosphere is -- the natural components really would be from

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much of it is actually coming from the ocean. It actually

evaporates or it is called evade into the atmosphere.

THE COURT: Natural causes?

THE WITNESS: Well, that's the natural component.

As I mentioned, the concentration of mercury typically you

see in the rainfall which comes out of the atmosphere in

rain, that's how it ends up in the Everglades. About half

of that you might consider natural.

The other half really comes from a combustion

processes. Most of it is from burning of coal, although not

all of it is even from this country. A lot of it is still

in the atmosphere from like from Eastern Europe.

THE COURT: How much phosphorus comes into the

water from natural rainfall?

THE WITNESS: Well, I think Mr. Gherini addressed

that yesterday. They actually get about, as I recall him

saying, around 30 parts per billion phosphorus in rainfall.

There is also a phosphorus component in rainfall,

definitely.

THE COURT: Thank you. Go ahead.

MR. SAMS: Mr. Bigham, perhaps you can step the

easel where I have placed an enlarged copy of exhibit number

84, and if you could show the Court on that graphic, which

is entitled "The Inverse Relationship Between Mercury

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the Everglades," what it means.

BY MR. SAMS:

Q    First, let me ask you, did you prepare this exhibit?

A    Yes, I did. It was prepared under my direction at PTI.

Q    This exhibit shows basically all of the data available

to us from the EPA to date. It includes some of the marsh

transect data that we looked at earlier, and includes some

fairly recent data from the canals collected by EPA.

This really illustrates this inverse relationship

when you plot it just in terms of total phosphorus versus

mercury and Gambusia.

Here you you can see the total phosphorus in water.

As I said, there seems to be a major difference in the way

mercury is bioaccumulated. When we have a system with

phosphorus concentrations less than roughly 50 parts per

billion, you can see we have a lot of low values, and the

point here is that there doesn't seem to be any limitation,

whereas above 50, as I pointed out in our earlier look at

the transect in the report, we tend to not get any values

much above 300 parts per billion.

So this is really the area of concern here as to

the affects of these higher concentrations on upper parts of

the food level.

Q    Mr. Bigham, please remain in the area where you are

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bloaccumulation in Everglades wading birds if phosphorus

concentrations were required to be 50 parts per billion or

less? This question I ask specifically with reference to a

concentration at the outflows from the storm water treatment

areas.

A    Yes. We did do some projections. In fact, we focused

right on these model cells, 3, 4, 5 and 6, which is the area

where we expect the biggest decrease in phosphorus

concentrations.

It also turns out that this is an area that is

heavily utilized by wading birds for feeding activity, so it

is certainly important and relevant.

Q    What outflow concentrations of phosphorus from the STA's

did you examine in this analysis?

A    We looked at 4 cases. One was the long term averaging

or background concentrations. We also looked at STA

outflows of 50 parts per billion, 25 and 10 parts per

billion, just for a range of comparisons; what that would

mean in terms of bioaccumulation or exposure to Great Blue

Heron, using that example.

Q    In general, what did you find in conducting that

analysis? I would state, for the record, that I am now

having you speak with respect to exhibit number 85 as

pre-marked.

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assessment that I described earlier pointed out, is as we

decreased phosphorus concentrations, we would expect an

increase in the exposure to wading birds.

In this particular exhibit, what we have done is to

put that in terms of what is called a hazard index, also

known as a hazard quotient. It is a commonly used way of

expressing the results of ecological risk, and what this

means is if we look at the value of a hazard index of one,

that means we are right at that level that's considered to

be the acceptable dose, or that TRB that I mentioned before

as it has been estimated by EPA.

You can see, for example, in cell number 5 that it

is currently right about at that level. Then as we decrease

phosphorus further, we end up up basically trippling the

hazard index, and then, of course, if we go down to ten

parts per billion phosphorus case, it is about a 7-fold

increase then in this hazard index.

THE COURT: The red line is ten parts? The green

line is 25 parts?

THE WITNESS: Correct.

THE COURT: And the yellow line is 50 parts?

THE WITNESS: Yes, Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right.

THE WITNESS: But it indicates that as we

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concentrations, this hazard index or risk to the Great Blue

Heron would increase.

BY MR. SAMS:

Q    Is the risk that you have identified in that exhibit

average or based on a mean?

A    Well, yes. Actually, of course, there is a lot of

assumptions in here, and we tried to be extremely careful

not to over estimate what the risk might be.

These values are actually based on kind of the mean

concentration. If I can go back to the earlier exhibit.

Basically, the equation or the fitted curve that we used to

predict mercury bioaccumulation here was basically more of

an average value. We did not use these stream values in

coming up with these projections.

So, we attempted to be pretty conservative. And I

think another thing to keep in mind are that it is kind of a

reality check that I think is important to keep in mind is

that the current case is giving us indications also that if

we look at the long term average, that we are about at or a

bit above, as in the case of cell 6; what would be the level

above which adverse affects would be expected. And since we

are starting to see adverse affects, this seems that we are

in the right ballpark.

THE COURT: What are the adverse affects?

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related to behavorial and reproductive affects. Mercury

tends to affect wildlife. For example, they may not exhibit

appropriate courtship behavior. They may abandon nests at

the wrong time. It also seems to decrease their appetite,

so their general fitness reproductive ability is greatly

deminished.

BY MR. SAMS:

Q    While you are still up, Mr. Bigham, could you describe

briefly for the Court why the cell 6, the last 3 bars,

yellow, green and red, appear to be at an even height?

A    Yes. Another thing we did again to make sure we weren't

over-predicting or overly crying wolf, so to speak, is that

in the data set we have available, about the lowest

phosphorus concentration we have is about 80 parts per

billion.

So, when we were modeling these affects or the

hazard index, any time there was that the Tetra Tech model

projected a phosphorus value lower than 8 parts per billion,

I just used the value of 8 because less than that is beyond

the range of our data and legitimate ability to extrapolate.

THE COURT: Yes.

THE WITNESS: So these could, in fact, be a bit

higher, but I just chopped them off.

Q    Mr. Bigham, have any of the birds that you have looked

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A    One of the species that we evaluated in our report Is

the Wood Stork which is listed as a threatened and

endangered species, yes.

Q    I believe you can take your seat now.

A    Can I?

Q    Yes. Mr. Bigham, did you hear Dr. Goforth testify a

couple of days ago that there is enough concern about

mercury in the Everglades to essentially warrant the

District to conduct a special study in parallel with its

studies of the numeric phosphorus limits?

A    Yes, I did.

Q    Do you agree with his statement?

A    I very definitely agree.

Q    Let me show you a demonstrative exhibit that we have

prepared. It is similar to one that Mr. Lehtenin used and,

we are not going to introduce this as an exhibit. I am

attempting to show the settlement agreement numeric

agreements as they are established in that document.

Is it your understanding that the settlement

agreement that is part of the discussion before the Court

requires these interim and long term phosphorus

concentrations for the Loxahatchee Refuge and the Everglades

National Park?

A    Yes.

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give you any cause for concern about these levels?

A    Well, these levels are all within the ranges which we

would predict adverse affects to wading birds.

MR. SAMS: At this point, Your Honor, I would move

the admission of exhibits 83, 84 and 85 as pre-numbered.

MR. NETTLETON: Your Honor, we would like to

reserve objection on that, since this is a rather lengthy

report. We haven't had a chance to look at it at this

point.

THE COURT: All right. I will take that under

advisement. We will continue.

MR. SAMS: If I may, for the record, Your Honor, I

would just like to point out that the report is dated June,

1995, and has been available in its prior forms, as well as

that one to the agencies.

They have had an opportunity to review it since

that point in time.

THE COURT: Well, let's put it this way: I will

receive them in evidence, and if counsel has any serious

objection to some part of it, I will hear him on it later

on.

MR. SAMS: Thank you, Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right.

MR. SEARCHINGER: Your Honor, just in the extension

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there is a lot in evidence that we could submit to talk

about on mercury in this proceeding. And if mercury is

really an issue in this proceeding, if it is considered a

relevant issue, then there is a whole lot of other evidence.

THE COURT: Well, it is the relationship of mercury

to phosphorus and the balances that appearantly do have some

relevancy to the question of phosphorus content.

I think it is certainly sufficiently relevant to be

considered by all of us, and particularly by the Court in

doing whatever it is going to do or whatever I am going to

do. All right. Do you have something more?

MR. SAMS: No, Your Honor, We would tender Mr.

Bigham for cross-examination.

THE COURT: All right. We've been at it for about

an hour and a half. Let's take about 10 minutes.

(RECESS TAKEN)

THE COURT: Sit down, please, folks. Mr.

Nettleton.

MR. NETTLETON: Thank you, Your Honor.

CROSS-EXAMINATION

Q    Mr. Bigham, I would just like to clarify a couple of

items. I believe in response to questions from the Court

you indicated, did you not, that atmosphere deposition, that

is rainfall and particles, dry particles settling from the

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surface waters in the northern hemisphere?

A    Well, not all surface waters in the northern hemisphere.

My reference was really to the Everglades.

Q    So with regard to the Everglades then?

A    Yes, that's correct.

Q    And you also indicated, I believe -- and these are

probably my words, not yours, but the research in the

mercury cycling area in the ecosystem is pretty much in its

infancy, is that right?

A    Yes. It has expanded very, very rapidly in the last

several years since the late '80's.

Q    But the technology and quality control and methodologies

have really just been developed within the last decade, is

that right?

A    Correct.

Q    And you mentioned that the form of -- well, let's talk

about mercury cycling. In mercury cycling we are really

primarily concerned with, if I am correct, the 3 forms of

mercury, the mecuric, ion and on elemental mercury and

methyl mercury, is that right, in general?

A    Primarily, that's correct.

Q    Okay. And methyl mercury is the form which is a human

health concern and an ecological concern, is that right?

A    Yes, it is.

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cycling, you are referring to the processes that lead to

either methylation or demethylation of other forms of

mercury into methyl mercury or back the other way?

A    Yes. Mercury cycling really in general refers to the

behavior of these various mercury species, because again

mercury is somewhat unusual because sometimes when we speak

of lead or cadmium, or something like that, we are concerned

about the total concentration, but the concern is not just

total mercury.

It is really how it can get converted into methyl

which is the more toxic species, that's right.

Q    And would you agree that given the current scientific

knowledge in this area, that it is unclear whether the

dynamics of methylation are primarily under biological or

geochemical control?

A    Well, I think the evidence in the literature is pretty

clear that it is primarily biological and mediated by

sulphate reducing bacteria.

THE COURT: What, sulphide?

THE WITNESS: Sulfate reducing bacteria. It Is a

particular type of bacteria that are ubiquitous that occur

virtually anywhere and seem to be responsible. It is a

product of their metabolism they seem to, incidently, end up

converting ionic mercury to a methyl form.

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activity is not as important in fresh water systems as salt

water systems?

A    No, I would not.

Q    The mercury cycle as we have discussed in methylation

and demethylation of mercury, does that occur naturally in

the ecosystem?

A    Yes, it does.

Q    And would you agree that currently there are little if

any, and I will ask you whether there are any existing

scientific studies in peer review journals relating to the

mercury cycle in subtropical wetlands such as the

Everglades?

A    Yes. I am aware of a couple of articles that deal with

the Everglades. I think work by Jerry Stober of EPA has

been published. There may be a couple of others that I am

not aware of yet.

Q    Are you aware of any such published articles that deal

with the phosphorus hypothesis that you have discussed here

today?

A    Not for the Everglades, no. There are other papers that

have posed a similar relationship between phosphorous or a

degree of utrification and mercury bioaccumulation similar

to what we have seen in the Everglades.

Q    And what are the geographic areas of those studies?

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fairly extensively where they have a significant problem

with elevated mercury and bioaccumulations in Swedish lakes.

There are a couple of others that really weren't

location specific. It was talking more from a theoretical

basis.

Q    Okay. Well, would you agree that a system in Sweden

would not be as useful a tool as far as a modeling tool for

predicting how mercury may cycle in an ecosystem such as the

Everglades?

A    Well, it is very hard to say. First, you have to kind

of work out the science of what has really gone on in the

system before you can model it. If the fundamental

processes are the same, it would. If they are not, it is

quite clear that we have a ways to go in understanding the

the or in working out the science of mercury

bioaccumula