Deposition from United States v. SFWMD, et al.,

Case No. 88-1886-CIV-HOEVELER
 
  STYLE:     US vs. SFWMD
  CASE:      88-1886-CIV-WMH
  JUDGE:   WILLIAM M. HOEVELER
  DATE:      August 28, 1990

  NAVIGATION:
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                    Appearances
                    Proceeding
                    Page:   10
                    Deponant's Certificate (page 15)
                    Ceritificate of Service (page 16)

 

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
MIAMI DIVISION

 

 

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

Plaintiff,

vs.

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT; JOHN R. WODRASKA,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SOUTH FLORIDA
WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT;
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION AND DALE TWACHTMANN,
SECRETARY,  FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION, et. al.,

Defendants.

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Case No
88-1886-CIV-WMH  

 

DEPOSITION OF CONNIE FALLS,
THE WITNESS, TAKEN ON
BEHALF OF THE PLAINTIFFS

* * *

 

DATE:   August 23, 1990

 

PROFESSIONAL REPORTING SERVICE
Suite 303, 324 Datura Street
West Palm Beach, Florida 33401
(407) 659-4046

 


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INDEX

 

August 23, 1990

 

DIRECT

 

CROSS

 

REDIRECT

 

RECROSS

 

CONNIE FALLS
By Ms. Beverly Nash 5
By Mr. Joe Richards 20

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The deposition of CONNIE FALLS, the witness, in the

above-entitled and numbered cause, was taken before me,

DONNA McCALLEY, Registered Professional Reporter, and

Notary Public for the State of Florida at Large, at

Suite 110, 324 Datura Street, in the City of West Palm

Beach, County of Palm Beach, in the State of Florida,

beginning at the hour of 1:05 p.m., on Thursday, the

23rd of August, 1990, pursuant to the Notice in said

cause for the taking of said deposition, which is

annexed to the court file herein, on behalf of the

Plaintiffs in the above-entitled action pending in the

above-named court.

The appearances at said time and place

were as follows:

UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Room 868, 601 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20044-0663
Attorneys for the Plaintiffs, U.S.A.
By BEVERLY SHERMAN NASH, ESQ.

PEEPLES, EARL & BLANK, P.A.
Suite 3636, Two South Biscayne Boulevard
Miami, Florida 33131
Attorneys for the Cities of Belle Glade
and Clewiston
By JOSEPH RICHARDS, ESQ.

SKADDEN, ARPS, SLATE, MEAGHER & FLOM
1440 New York Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20005-2107
Attorneys for the South Florida Water
Management District
By KATHARINE STOLLMAN, ESQ.
ALLISON BURDETTE, ESQ.

 


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APPEARANCES CONTINUED:

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT
3301 Gun Club Road
West Palm Beach, Florida 33416-4680
By JACQUELYN L. WATERS, ESQ.

ALSO PRESENT:   Ray Roberts
                                Robert Johnson

 

 

 


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THEREUPON:

CONNIE FALLS,

having been first duly sworn, as hereinafter certified,

testified as follows:

DIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MS. NASH:

Q. Would you state your name, please.

A. Connie Falls.

Q. Miss Falls, my name is Beverly Nash, and

I'm attorney for the United States in this litigation.

And we're here so that we can understand what computer

systems the water management district has, how they're

utilized, what data's on the system, how data is

transferred amongst the systems, and you're here today

as a representative of the district alleged as having

the most knowledge on certain areas.

Have you been shown the list of areas that

we're interested in getting information on?

A. Yes.

Q. And what areas are you representing the

water management district on today?

A. Probably one through three.

Q. What is your present title or position?

A. Senior systems analyst.

Q. And what division or department?

 


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A. Computer Management.

Q. What is your job description?

A. I--it has several things in it, but I

couldn't really say what they are right here.

Q. What do you do?

A. I take care of two VAX's and a VAX

cluster. I do the systems work, install and upgrade

software, system software, and I maintain Xerox work

stations.

Q. Anything else?

A. I help users who have problems accessing

systems or--or doing things with the software that's on

the systems.

Q. And how long have you been in that role?

A. A little over three-and-a-half years.

Q. Have you ever had another position at the

water management district?

A. I was just promoted from systems analyst.

Q. And how long were you a systems analyst?

A. Until a couple months ago.

Q. Were your job responsibilities different

when you were a systems analyst?

A. Not really except that now I'm supervising

a couple of people. Before I wasn't supervising

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Q. Who are you supervising?

A. David Sweet and Laura McLester.

Q. Anyone else?

A. No.

Q. And who is your supervisor?

A. Lavinia Ricketts.

Q. What is your educational background?

A. I have an AS degree in computer science

from Palm Beach Junior College.

Q. Do you have any other formal training in

systems analysis?

A. No.

Q. Any informal training?

A. You mean like job experience? That's

where I got most of my other training was on the job.

Q. You said one of your job responsibilities

is to take care of two VAXs. What does that entail?

A. Well, I make sure that the systems are

running, that all the software on them is running, that

people are able to access the systems. I upgrade the

software when new releases come out.

Q. Which of the VAXs are you responsible for?

A. 8820 and 6310.

Q. Are there other VAX machines in the

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A. There are some Micro VAX's and some VAX

stations or DEC stations.

Q. Do you have responsibility for the Micro

VAX's?

A. No.

Q. How about for the DEC stations?

A. No.

Q. Which of the software packages are you

responsible for maintaining?

A. All of them except for Oracle.

Q. And who maintains Oracle?

A. David Sweet.

Q. And is there a list of all the software

packages that you maintain?

A. Yes.

Q. Does that list have a name?

A. No. Just a list I have.

Q. Can you tell me what software packages are

on that list?

A. I*, Fortran, VAX C Programming Language,

SPM, Data Flex, Word Perfect, LPS Supporting Host and

Client, Diskkeeper, I-O Express, S and A Gateway

software, Message Router, the Mail Gateway.

That's all I can think of.

Q. What function does I* serve?

 


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A. It's a connections software for the

network for the Ungermann-Bass network.

Q. You mentioned SPM?

A. Software Performance Monitor. It's a

DEC-monitoring tool to help tune a system.

Q. And what function does Data Flex perform?

A. It's a data base software.

Q. What is it used for?

A. The card catalog for the reference center

is on that.

Q. And what sort of information is in that

card catalog on the--

A. What you would normally have in a library

card catalog, titles of articles or books or other

things--I don't know what all they have there--and the

author's name and a brief description of what it's

about.

Q. You mentioned LPS. What is that system?

A. Lazer Printing Systems. Software that

allows you to print things on a lazer printer.

Q. You mentioned Support Host and Client?

A. Supporting Host is the part that is

downloaded to the lazer printer whenever it needs to be

rebooted.

Q. Is another part of that Supporting Client?

 


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A. Yes.

Q. And what is that?

A. That allows you to have print cues on the

VAX that are route printouts to the laser printer.

Q. And Disk Keeper, what is that?

A. It's a disk defragmenting software that

keeps the files on the disks packed tightly together so

that you have big blocks of free space instead of a

bunch of little pieces of free space.

Q. Iowa (sic) Express, what is that?

A. I-O Express is a data-caching software

that utilizes virtual memory so that not as many disk

accesses need to be made. It speeds up the running of

the machine.

Q. S and A Gateway software, what is that?

A. It's software that allows the VAX to

communicate with the IBM through an S and A gateway.

Q. And the Message Router, what is that?

A. It's a--it's a facility that routes

messages to a foreign-mail gateway.

Q. What do you mean by "foreign-mail

gateway"?

A. Well, not--not on the VAX cluster.

Something away from the VAX cluster.

Q. And what is the mail gateway?


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A. That's part of the message router.

Q. Are any of these software packages you

mentioned created internally by the water management

district?

A. No. These were all purchased.

Q. Do you do any other work in maintaining

the software?

A. No.

Q. What do you do in maintaining the Xerox

work stations?

A. When there are hardware problems, I'm one

of the people who calls in for a service man to come

out and repair them, or if there are problems with the

software, there are certain procedures that can be done

in-house to repair the software and get it running

again. I am one of the people who does that.

Q. So you have certain in-house programs used

to repair software problems?

A. There are procedures, diagnostic

procedures, from Xerox, but you don't need a hardware

technician to run them.

Q. These are procedures that were provided to

the district by Xerox?

A. Yes.

Q. Are you ever asked to maintain or work

 


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with software packages that are not among these

standard ones you mentioned? Do individual researchers

ever ask you--

A. No.

Q. --for assistance with other software

packages?

A. No.

Q. What are the operating systems on the

VAX's you maintain?

A. VMS.

Q. What's the nature of requests you get from

users to render assistance?

A. It's usually something like they've run

out of disk quota, they need more space to store their

files, or they've gotten disconnected and they don't

know what to do. Or sometimes it's an actual problem

in using a package, such as Word Perfect, where they

don't know what keys to press or--or what to do to get

something to work.

Q. If a user calls with a space problem, who

has authority the assign them more space?

A. I do, or David Sweet or Lavinia Ricketts.

Q. And if you are unable to solve a problem

that a user comes to you with, to whom do you turn?

A. Lavinia Ricketts.

 


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Q. In the work that you do, do you transfer

files from one computer to another?

A. Occasionally I help users accomplish that.

Q. And what procedures do you use?

A. We transfer files either on diskettes or

electronically through the VAX.

Q. Are you ever requested to transfer files

to users outside the water management district?

A. No.

Q. Are there manuals or other documentation

that you turn to to assist you in your job?

A. Yes.

Q. What are those manuals, documentation?

A. VMS manuals for the VAX, and the Viewpoint

Reference Library for the Xerox work stations.

Q. Are you responsible for creating any text

data documents in your job?

A. Yes, I generate memos and documentation of

procedures that I use in maintaining the VAX's and the

Xeroxs.

Q. Is there a directory or a library in which

those documents are stored?

A. No.

Q. Are there hard copies of those memos or

files you create?

 


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A. Yes.

Q. Is there a name under which you keep them

filed?

A. No.

Q. Are you responsible for making decisions

on which computer or which system water management

district users utilize?

A. No.

Q. Are you responsible for doing any backup

on the VAX's?

A. Not directly. I set up the original

procedures that the operators carry out.

Q. And what are those procedures?

A. They do an incremental backup of all the

disks Monday through Thursday and a full backup every

Friday.

Q. How long are those backups maintained?

A. I believe they have a five-week cycle.

Q. Is there any permanent or historical

records kept of the data on the VAX's?

A. Not that I'm aware of.

Q. Do you have any responsibility for backup

on the Xerox work stations?

A. Again, it's partially a procedure that I

help set up that the operators carry out.

 


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Q. Does the procedure for doing backup on the

Xerox work stations differ from that on the VAX's?

A. Yes.

Q. What is that procedure?

A. It's one disk is--it's done once a week, a

full backup.

Q. Do you know what data files are stored on

the VAX's?

A. It's all according to what each user

stores in their individual account. I don't know what

that would be.

Q. Is there any record that you're aware of

that would indicate what data files are stored?

A. No.

Q. Are data files stored on the Xerox work

stations?

A. Yes, on their local disks.

Q. Do you know what data files those would

be?

A. Whatever data files they're working on, I

presume.

Q. And is there any list or record of what

data files would be stored on the Xerox?

A. No.

Q. Are there means to access the VAX's from

 


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outside the water management district?

A. Yes.

Q. And what procedure is used to do that?

A. You would need a password to call in and

get a modem, and then you would need a valid log-on to

log on to the VAX.

Q. And who is responsible for issuing the

password?

A. David Sweet.

Q. And what's entailed in having a valid

log-on to log in?

A. To be a registered user on the VAX, you

would have to have approval from your division director

that you need access to the VAX, and then we add them

as a user.

Q. Are there water management district

employees that you're aware of that access the VAX from

home or from outside the district?

A. The only one I know of for sure is me. I

sometimes call in and do systems work at night.

Q. Is there a particular telephone number

that you call to do that?

A. Yes.

Q. What is that number?

A. I think it's--

 


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MS. STOLLMAN: I would object to that

question. For what purpose are you obtaining

the telephone number here today?

MS. NASH: For the very purpose that we're

here taking this deposition, how we can access,

question number three, computer systems which it

can access directly and the procedure for

accessing such computer systems.

MS. STOLLMAN: And the procedure for

accessing it is a telephone number.

MS. NASH: I'm asking her what that

telephone number is.

MS. STOLLMAN: We're not here to tell you

how to access that system.

MS. NASH: It's directly relevant to

number three.

MS. STOLLMAN: My understanding is the

purpose of the deposition is the procedure of

obtaining access--

MS. NASH: Right.

MS. STOLLMAN: --and at a later time, the

government will make a motion to either obtain

access to the systems or obtain the information

that is desired based on what is discovered

today but not for obtaining access today.

 


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MS. NASH: We are not obtaining access

today. We're only trying to find out the means

by which to obtain the access and the telephone

number.

MS. STOLLMAN: And you know that's the

telephone number.

MS. NASH: We're entitled to know what

that telephone number is to answer the question.

MS. STOLLMAN: I don't think you're

entitled to know that telephone number today.

MS. NASH: Are you directing the witness

not to answer?

MS. STOLLMAN: Yes.

MS. NASH: Fine. We'll take this up with

the judge.

BY MS. NASH:

Q. Are there procedures for accessing the

Xerox work stations from outside the water management

district?

A. No.

Q. Do you know whether any entities other

than water management district employees have access to

the VAX?

A. I believe the Army Corps of Engineers were

doing a project with the district and were transferring

 


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some files onto the VAX strictly as a file server.

Q. Would you explain what you mean by

trans--having the VAX used as a file server?

A. They were doing some kind of Symphony

spread sheet application, and they were simply

transferring the files onto a VAX disk so that the

person at the district who needed those could get them

off of there and use them on the PC.

Q. Is there networking that's done between

the VAX's and any other computers that the water

management district has?

A. Yes.

Q. And how is that networking accomplished?

A. To the IBM through the S and A Gateway, to

other VAX's that are not in the cluster through DEC

NET, and to the Xerox central server through XNS for

VMS.

Q. Do you know whether there's any networking

between the VAX's and any computers outside the water

management district?

A. Not that I know of.

MS. NASH: I have no further questions.

MS. STOLLMAN: Do you want to take a break

before we continue?

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MS. STOLLMAN: Okay.

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. RICHARDS:

Q. My name's Joe Richards. I represent the

Cities of Belle Glade and Clewiston.

Are you aware of any data that has been

accidentally lost or destroyed?

A. No.

Q. Have you performed any recoveries after

power failures or crashes of computers?

A. Could you clarify what you mean by

"recovery"?

Q. Attempts to restore data after a crash.

A. I'm not aware of any data being lost as a

result of crashes, not on my systems.

Q. Mr. William Hall testified that you

performed some recoveries on--after a power failure.

Is that true?

A. Not of data. Bringing machines back up.

Q. But not restoring data files.

A. I've never lost any data files as a result

of a power failure that I can recall.

Q. Are you aware of any water quality or

hydrology data stored on the VAX computers that you

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A. I don't know what they store on there.

Q. Do you know how many users are on the VAX

8820?

A. Do you mean--

Q. Number of individuals who utilize the

system.

A. Oh, who are generally on the system?

Q. Yeah.

A. Usually around 30.

Q. Do you know what divisions those

individuals?

A. Regulation, land management, data

management.

I believe those are the main ones.

Q. And the same question for the 6310.

A. The 6310, I would say, all divisions. We

have many users using terminals and utilizing the Word

Perfect on the 6310.

Q. And I would have to ask those individual

users what data they have on those computers.

A. Yes. I don't know what the data is they

have.

Q. Are you aware of any quality assurance or

quality control procedures for the use of these two VAX

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A. No.

MR. RICHARDS: I have no further

questions. Thank you.

THE WITNESS: You're welcome.

(Whereupon, the deposition was concluded

at 1:38 p.m.)

 


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I, CONNIE FALLS do hereby certify

that I have read the foregoing transcript of my

deposition given on 28th day, August, 1990; that

together with the correction page attached hereto

noting changes in form or substance, if any, it is

true and correct.

 

_____________________________
CONNIE FALLS

I do hereby certify that the depostion of

CONNIE FALLS was submitted to the witness for reading

and signing; that after he had stated to the

undersigned Notary Public that he had read and

examined his depositon, he signed the same in

the presence of the undersigned authority

on the _____ day of ____________, 1990.

_____________________________
Notary Public
My Commission expires:   _______

 

 

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